[Rumori] %20 & MediaDefender & New York Attorney General's Office & Randy Saaf & Celine Dion - "Taking Chances" (thee Media Saaf-iee Way)

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%20 & MediaDefender & New York Attorney General's Office & Randy Saaf & Celine Dion - "Taking Chances" (thee Media Saaf-iee Way)

http://noneinc.com/sound/%20&MediaDefender&NYAG&RandySaaf&CelineDion-TakingChances.mp3

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Prepare to be enchanted, as we transport you to a conference call just miles away but legally 20 minutes into thee future. 

Today¹s participants:
            MediaDefender ­ Internet Packet Polluting Star-Force
		Randy Saaf - Conflicted Internetting P2P Super Star
            New York Attorney Generals Office ­ Wannabee Intertubingnets Activity Stars
            Celine Dion ­ Pop Shill-Star Extraodinaire

As we continue to explore today's tale, times and peoples begin to show their true colors.  Once upon a time, in the land of the public internet, the biggest interdicting hero of modern times was a young promoter of the undeterred free transfer of information.  Just after the turn of the millenium, Randy Saaf was out promoting Onsystem's P2P to help the home user, for free, share their files.  Same time, same place, a few bits and bytes away, Celine Dion was continuing her assault on her PC listening audience thru CDs which wouldn't function as desired, a New Day indeed.  FFW and Randy's started a new company, MediaDefender, which does everything his past company said wasn't possible, and is gathering audiences in the halls of legislature because of the new mental programming.  Celine though was at her best, offering a new CD which RootKit'd people computers into yet even more garbage waste.  But that's not why we're here, the nows the pertinent, Celine Dion is working with an internet corporation who's working with a governmental organization of a State of the USA, and their minds are wrapped up with Child Porn.  Welcome to 2007, where normal people lovers take chances talking like normal people lovers do.

Yours when downloaded,
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Consumer Whore
Corporate Shill
Wannabee Cultural Chimera
Part time music fan

Title:
%20 & MediaDefender & New York Attorney General's Office & Randy Saaf & Celine Dion - "Taking Chances" (thee Media Saaf-iee Way)

Parts:
01. (00:00-02:31) = Taking Chances, Starting with a Hello (2007)
02. (02:32-05:12) = New Day Eye Free Internet with Onsystems (2002)
03. (05:13-07:54) = Cancerous Congressional Secret Heart Rootkit (2005)
04. (07:55-12:21) = Communicating Chances the Protected Layered Hidden Way (2007)
05. (12:22-13:19) = Celine Dion Claims Another Biggest All Time Title (won't happen)
06. (13:20-16:11) = Finishing Chances (2007)

Sample Sources:

MediaDefender & New York Attorney General's Office Conference Call on Leaked e-mails (2007)
http://www.mediadefender-defenders.com/trans.html
http://www.mediadefender-defenders.com/mediadefender.phonecall-mdd-v2.ogg

Randy Saaf of Onsystems - Earthlink Internet Radio Show (2001)
Randy Saaf of Onsystems - Mark and Mark Show on KABC (2001)
Randy Saaf of Onsystems - Jeff Levy Show on KFI (2001)

Randy Saaf of MediaDefender - Congressional Testimony before the "Piracy of Intellectual Property on Peer-To-Peer Networks" Subcommitte on Courts, The Internet and Intellectual Property of the Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives, One Hundred Seventh Congress; Second Session. (2003)
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju81896.000/hju81896_0f.htm

Celine Dion - Taking Chances (2007)
Celine Dion - A New Day Has Come (2002)
Celine Dion - Tous les Secrets / Let Your Heart Decide (2005)
Celine Dion - Various Interviews

Relevant Info on Celine Dion:

Dion's CD can crash PCs - Friday, 5 April, 2002, 10:56 GMT 11:56 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1912466.stm
Opening Line : "Buyers of Celine Dion's new album are being warned not to play the CD on their computer as it might force it to crash."

Sony sued over copy-protected CDs - Thursday, 10 November 2005, 11:22 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4424254.stm
Opening Line : "Sony BMG is facing three lawsuits over its controversial anti-piracy software."

MediaDefender E-mails - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:39:05 -0800 thru Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:01:10 -0700
>google< "site:mediadefender-defenders.com "Celine Dion""


Transcript of "Taking Chances":

Celine Dion (CD) - I didn't really want to do this song.  I thought it was too much.  But my husband was like, listen to it all the way, give it a chance at least.
MediaDefender (MD) - Hello?
CD - Can you play the music, just the beginning.  I want to tell you if it's loud enough or not.  Please.
MD - So ok ummm.  Hello?
New York Attorney General's Office (AT) - Yes.
MD - Hi, this is MediaDefender.
AT - Alright, Mike McCartney, Brad Bartram and Jim Dommers
CD - Hi guys.
MD - Hi there, guys.
AT - Alright, uhm...
MD - I'm sorry, go ahead.
CD - Don't know much about your life.
MD - I'm not sure what you mean, our email-server isn't free of other eyes.
CD - That's a big problem.
CD - Don't know much about your world,
MD - it was going through the public internet and there wasn't any sort of encryption key.
CD - but, Don't want to be33e33eee3e alone tonight,
AT - I understand that, we could certainly add PGP-encryption 
CD - On this planet they call earth.
AT - or some other email-encryption so that it's encrypted in transit
CD - Yeah and it's going to be incredible.
CD - You don't know much about my past
AT - I mean you guys know as well as we know that you guys are a major target of hackers.
CD - Uh Huh.
CD - and, I don't have a future figured out.
MD - Right, no, we're a major target of hackers,
CD - Of Course!
CD - And maybe this is going too fast.
MD - you guys are part of the government, the government is always a major target of hackers and people trying to sneak around for information.
CD - And maybe it's not meant to last, 
MD - So I mean both of us are, are, are pretty big targets.
CD - NO!
CD - But what do you say to taking chances,
CD - What do you say to jumping off the edge?
AT - Here's the problem, a potential problem, and again, from the law-enforcement-perspective:
CD - Never knowing if there's solid ground below
AT - The intelligence information that you guys are gathering,
CD - Or hand to hold, 
AT - we need to be able, it needs to be able to stand up in court,
CD - or hell to pay,
AT - we will get lots and lots of bad guys in this, I'm convinced, and I don't have any concern of that.
MD ­ Alright, uh.
CD - I'm happy about that.  This is what I want.
CD- What do you say,
AT - what we do in law enforcement a secret and protected as best we can, so we that can continue to being successful.
CD - What do you say? 
>Crowd Roar<
CD - I just want to start again,

CD - A new day has...come 
Earthlink Radio Show (ERS) - Your listening to the internet radio show.  And we are fortunate to have in the studio with us...
CD - I feel like i'm an animal in a cage.  Holding me until... uffff
CD - I was waiting for so long, 
ERS - Right now however, I want to introduce our guest.
CD - For a miracle to come 
ERS - Mr. Randy Saaf, president of Onsystems dot com.
CD - Hey i'm your partner, anytime.
CD - Everyone told me to be strong 
Randy Saaf (RS) - Thanks for having us.
ERS - Thank you for being here.
CD - Hold on and don't shed a tear 
CD - The thing i'm looking forward to the most, i've gotta be honest with you.
RS - Tijit Pro is a low cost...
CD - Through the darkness and good times 
RS - ...virtual private networking alternative
CD - ...don't get me wrong, but this is Amazing.
CD - I knew I'd make it through 
RS - the beauty of a peer-to-peer system is that there is no big brother watching...
CD - And the world thought I had it all 
RS - ...it is a very pure connection.  It's kind of the next evolution of the internet.
ERS - Yeah, Right
CD - But I was waiting for you 
CD - Very bedroom sexy sexy.
RS - It's based on peer to peer technology.  
CD - Hush, love 
RS - Much like Napster.
ERS - Nice way to put it...
RS - Napster
CD - I see a light in the sky
RS - Napster 
CD - Oh, it's almost blinding me 
RS - We want to encourage people to get the most out of peer to peer networking.
CD - Udg, it's not that crazy.
CD - Where it was dark...
ERS - As i'm sitting here thinking whirling around...
CD - ...now there's light 
ERS - ...how to have the kids not use this to cheat with?
CD - That's great...
ERS - Ha! I just thought this is a great way to pass...
CD - Where there was pain now there's joy 
Octavio Herrera of Onsystems (OH) - Actually if they do use this to cheat...
CD - Where there was weakness, 
OH - ...Then I think they are learning some valuable lessons...
CD - I found my strength 
OH - ...that will come in handy when they hit the business world.
CD - I know there are alot of problems...in show business.
CD - All in the eyes of a boy 
CD - Hush, love 
RS - I don't know if people realize this...
CD - Hush, love 
RS - ...but when they send an e-mail, it always goes thru a server.  And so...
CD - I see a light in the sky 
RS - ...there is always an element of someone watching what your doing.
CD - I feel like going, oh oh oh.
>Crowd Laugh<
CD - All in the eyes of a boy
CD - A new day has...come  
CD - I can't believe 
CD - I've been touched by an angel with love 
CD - I can't believe 
CD - I've been touched by an angel with love
RS - You don't have to give your e-mail address
CD - Hush...
RS - By all means, go get a fake yahoo address or something like that 
CD - ...now.
CD - A new day has...come 
CD - A new day has...come 
CD - Ohhh, a light... OOh 


Mr. Howard Coble (HC) - This is indulgence, I'm going to deliver a longer than usual opening statement.
HC - this is very likely the final time that I will preside over a hearing or markup as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property.
CD - Tell them not to worry.  If someone should worry, it's me.
HC - Mr. Saaf
CD - You've been questioned by everyone.
RS - I am the president and CEO of MediaDefender. 
CD - So you¹re in the dark
CD - When you hear the word cancer.
CD - Can you choose to fall 
RS - MediaDefender is the largest developer and seller of the peer-to-peer anti-piracy software
CD - Not for you... it's always for the others.
CD -  Should you risk it all 
RS - On the contrary, MediaDefender is a big fan of peer-to-peer networking. 
RS - We believe it's one of the biggest advancements in the Internet since the Web page and has countless applications.
CD - How¹m I gonna stop it if you wanna give it all to love 
CD - When I¹m on your side 
RS - MediaDefender's technology participates in the peer-to-peer network like any of the other 50 million peer-to-peer users.
CD - We're in show Business!  You know, nothing can happen to us.
CD -  We understand that you¹ve met someone
RS - Our aim is to prevent the person seeking the pirated material 
CD -  With a perfect heart 
RS - from finding the pirated material.
CD - It hits you and make you realize many things.
CD - if you think you¹ll find happiness 
CD - Baby take the dive 
CD - But i've gotta be honest with you.
RS - Data is not collected on individuals.
CD - It¹s unusual
CD - Only good things come out of it. 
CD - But it¹s critical 
RS - Some of MediaDefender's technologies are completely lawful and have been spoken about here, such as decoying, spoofing, and they're well-understood.
RS - However, other technologies that could be very effective in the fight against piracy 
CD - Je ne connais pas tous les secrets de ton coeur
RS - happen to overlap with existing computer use and hacking laws 
CD - Mais je viens quand même
RS - that were never meant to address peer-to-peer networking.
CD - No!  It's happened to you for a reason.
RS - MediaDefender believes strongly in the privacy of individual users.  MediaDefender has been able to stay under the radar for over 2 years because of how noninvasive our technology is.
RS - We don't use up a lot of bandwidth. 
CD - How¹m I gonna stop it if you wanna give it all to love 
RS - They can even still download pirated material on the peer-to-peer network while we're indicting them.
CD - The president of SONY called and said your going to have a number one... ROOTKIT
CD - Je te suis quand même
CD - Quand même
HC - Thank you Mr. Saaf.  And thanks to each of the panelists for your contribution.
CD - Thank you for helping us.


AT - we'll go from there. Now, going forward, how much more testing do you guys need to do, and can we set up a time
CD - Don't know much about your life.
MD - you know, one thing to keep in mind, is, ummm
CD - Don't know much about your world, but
CD - Don't want to be alone 

MD - Now it's totally silent I don't hear anything.


MD -  I mean, all we can say for sure, MediaDefender's 
CD - What do you say...
MD - MediaDefender's mail server has not been hacked or compromised, 
CD - ...to taking chances,
MD - and you guys are basically reporting the same on your side. 
CD - What do you say...
MD - So, then there's just the public Internet between.
CD - ...to jumping off...
MD - Well it was working for a moment.  huh.


AT - Is it better now?
MD - Yeah. It's better.
CD - hell to pay,
AT - the content of this operation that we're doing is extremely sensitive
CD - What do you say,
AT - hm, you know, another layer of communication so that, you know, nobody can understand or read what the hell we're talking about with each other.
CD - Yeah.
CD - I just wanna

CD - But, What do you say to taking chances,
CD - I don't think I made a mistake.
CD - What do you say to jumping... 
CD - I could never
CD - ...off
CD - your skin?
CD - What do you say to taking chances,
CD - What do you say to taking chances,
CD - Very difficult.  ...ummm
CD - What do you say to jumping off
CD - So powerful, yet so light.
CD - Somewhere underneath your skin?
CD - What do you say to taking chances,
CD - What do you say
CD - I was constantly dreaming, so I didn't learn so well.
CD - Taking chances.
CD - Never knowing 
CD - They thought I was abused.
CD - or hell to pay,
CD - What do you say.
CD - I'd try to make a deal with them, because I suffer today.
CD - What do you say?
CD - But it doesn't affect me, because it's not true.
CD - What do you say?
CD - I think i've been emormously blessed.
CD - And I had my heart beating down,
CD - But I always come back for more, yeah.
CD - There¹s nothing like love to pull you up,
CD - When you¹re laying down on the floor there.
CD - So talk to me, talk to me,
CD - I've had a hard time.
CD - Like lovers do.
CD - I do not. 
CD - Yeah walk with me, walk with me,
CD - Like lovers do,
CD - Like lovers do.
CD - I'm always misserable, and I'm always crying.  And i'm always alone in the world.
CD - What do you say...
CD - I know, but do you want me to talk about everything that's happening too?
CD - ...to taking chances,
CD - That we don't really talk about?
CD - What do you say to jumping off the edge?
CD - It's not true!?
CD - Yeah
CD - Never knowing if there's solid ground below
CD - Or hand to hold, or hell to pay,
CD - What do you say,
CD - Well I hope so
CD - What do you say? 
CD - If I hadn't think so, I wouldn't have done it.
CD - Because I really wanted to have answers, why
CD - What do you say? 
CD - It was fun.
CD - Don't know much about your life.
CD - Why Why Why.
CD - And I don¹t know much about your world.
CD - Great, great fun.
CD - Don't know much about your life.
CD - And I don¹t know much about your world.
CD - I wonder sometimes.  Why? Humph Why.
CD - Don't know much about your life.
CD - Yes.  Unusual for me, but I love that.
CD - And I don¹t know much about your world.
CD - I don't regret anything.

CD - I don't want to see myself as a title.
Oprah Winfrey (OW) - She is the biggest selling female artist of all time.  Celine Dion
%20 - Celine Dion is the all time leader of CDs that would not play on PCs.
Jay Leno (JL) - Alrighty, the worlds best selling female artists.  Please welcome Celine Dion.
%20 - Celine Dion is the all time leader of embedded copy protection technology.
News Anchor (NA) - Celine Dion is the biggest selling female recording artists of all time.
%20 - Celine Dion is the all time leader of the malicious XCP Root Kit by Sony BMG and First 4 Internet.
Ellen Degenerous (ED)- Celine Dion is the biggest selling female artist in the world, please welcome five time grammy award winner.  Celine Dion.
%20 - Celine Dion is the all time leader of the interdicting spoofing anti-piracy solutions provided by internet piracy protection mediadefender. 
Larry King (LK) - Celine Dion, the biggest selling female singer, ever.
%20 - Celine Dion is the most used artists for alternative goals.
CD - Thank you so much!


MD - Are you guys still on the call?
AT - Are you there?
MD - Yeah.  I'm here, can you hear me?
CD - I think i'm still grounded.
MD - Hey Brad or Mike, can you hear me?
AT - Yeah we can hear you, can you hear us?
MD - Yeah occasionally
CD - your skin?
CD - What do you say to taking chances,
AT - you know, working together on the back end data structure so that it's calling the right stuff and keeping tracking the right stuff statistically.
CD - What do you say to jumping off the edge?
AT - Yeah, I'm impressed.
CD - Never
AT - I think this will be very good.
CD - hell to pay,
CD - What do you say,
AT - No, I don't think so either. I think that the Peer-to-Peer-network as a whole is a target-rich environment,
CD - What do you say?
CD - And I had my heart beating down,
AT - Then what we're gonna need to do 
CD - But I always come back for more, yeah.
AT - is once we get the file
MD - Right
CD - There¹s nothing like love to pull you up,
AT - We have to be able to link them back to the suspect IP
CD - When you¹re laying down on the floor there.
CD - So talk to me, talk to me,
AT - what IPs are associated with those contraband files
CD - Like lovers do.
AT - and what IPs and metadata are associated with the non-contraband files.
CD - Yeah walk with me, walk with me,
CD - Like lovers do,
AT - from this IP we got this picture, it is child porn. From these two IPs we got these two pictures, they are not child porn.
CD - Like lovers do.
AT - computers are great but they can't tell me what is and what isn't child porn and illegal sex.
MD - Right
CD - What do you say to taking chances,
CD - What do you say to jumping 
AT - I'm just nervous now going back through old emails
CD - off the edge?
AT - if anybody was successful sniffing our communication between each other over the last month
CD - Never knowing if there's solid ground below
CD - Or hand to hold, or hell to pay,
CD - What do you say,
AT - , I mean, that obviously couldn't know that you guys were helping the state of New York and the Attorney General's office
CD - What do you say?
MD - you know, not transmitting in the first place. So anyone transmitting is, per se, infringing on the law, 
CD - Don¹t know much about your life
MD - committing crimes.
CD - It's my wish to save the world.  I don't know how.  I don't have the answer.
CD - And I don¹t know much about your world.
CD - Because I don't have answers.  I prefer to unplug ourselves from it.
CD - Instead of going to see professionals, maybe we should ask...
CD - ...Normal People.