[Rumori] mash smarter not harder

Wed May 21 20:19:44 PDT 2008

     Hey all; nice thread, which warrants a response (delayed, due to 
my wedding... yay!)

At 07:13 AM 5/1/2008, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote:

>so here you have it: my new EP, mash smarter not harder.  it's a 
>free download.  it's a bit reminiscent of Girl Talk or Jason 
>Forrest, but a new and different take based on sample editing rather 
>than overlapping.  ...

     Thanks for putting this out there; I've only had the moment to 
listen to a couple of the tracks, but it's caught my interest so far...

At 10:14 AM 5/5/2008, Steev Hise wrote:

>I'm just glad people stopped calling them "bootlegs"!

     Amen... though "Mash-Ups" is pretty clunky.  With hyphen or 
without?  And so British...

>But yeah, it was just another musical fad, although it's interesting
>how the idea got incorporated into culture in various ways, often
>mutating as it went.  ...

     Yes; the term has strangely expanded very, very quickly to 
incorporate all manners of vaguely mash-uppy audio tricks and then on 
into internet apps and, nowly, anything that loosely combines two 
distinct uniquities...

>It's an interesting project and experiment.  I would love it if I
>walked into a club and witnessed people dancing to it, but I fear
>that would have to be in an alternate universe.

     I'm not surprised that San Francisco applies as your alternate 
universe:  Thanks to A+D, the twice-monthly mash-up 
<http://bootiesf.com/>Bootie night is one of DNA Lounge's biggest 
draws; they had to split in two after their monthly night started 
drawing in over 1,500 people.  And they've done so well that they've 
expanded this to Bootie LA, Bootie NYC, Paris, and a couple more 
somewheres in Europe.

     Now, mind you, I've seen their night firsthand many times and I 
suspect that most Rumorites wouldn't enjoy the thing.  The night is 
like most club nights -- loaded with overly-cologned males preying on 
overly-blushed females, and the music and entertainment feels largely 
secondary.  I can't help but think that the club kids are there 
because they simply feel like they're getting a good bargain -- two 
songs for the length of one.  If there's any appreciation of the 
artistry, I feel like the club-goers appreciate more of the 
"artistry" of the original pop sources than of the mashup artist 
combining them.

     That said, I'm generally for what they're doing, even if I don't 
have the compunction to go to it often.  A+D (the Bootie 
promoters/hosts) are generous people, directed, motivated, and 
respect the roots of where all this comes from.  But for the most 
part, almost all of the music played is simple A+B stuff.  In the end 
I'm less interested in the club night itself, and more interested in 
what its byproduct and spawn will be.

>...  Is a mashup just any multi- sourced sample-based composition 
>with a consistent (and danceable?)
>tempo (or that includes only gradual tempo shifts)?  I'd never
>thought of the category as being so broad.  Maybe we need a new term
>for this new thing you're doing.  maybe "mashon?" ...

     Dang it, I wish ECC's "Plagiarhythm" had caught on for the 
term... at least Macmillan put it in their 
dictionary: 
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/New-Words/030815-plagiarhythm.htm

At 11:36 AM 5/5/2008, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote:

>well, yes and no.  three of my favorite artists that came up from 
>the "bootleg" scene were osymyso, cassetteboy, and the glitch remix 
>work of dsico (later poj masta and others).

      I gotta say, I've been getting into more Glitch stuff of 
late... especially things like 
<http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=194525>edIT 
and 
<http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=94607959>Glitch 
Mob, and the <http://207.200.96.227:8020/>Psyphy stream...

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