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Hey all; nice thread, which warrants a response
(delayed, due to my wedding... yay!)<br><br>
At 07:13 AM 5/1/2008, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">so here you have it: my new EP,
mash smarter not harder. it's a free download. it's a bit
reminiscent of Girl Talk or Jason Forrest, but a new and different take
based on sample editing rather than overlapping.
...</blockquote><br>
Thanks for putting this out there; I've only had the
moment to listen to a couple of the tracks, but it's caught my interest
so far...<br><br>
At 10:14 AM 5/5/2008, Steev Hise wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I'm just glad people stopped
calling them "bootlegs"!</blockquote><br>
Amen... though "Mash-Ups" is pretty
clunky. With hyphen or without? And so British...<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">But yeah, it was just another
musical fad, although it's interesting <br>
how the idea got incorporated into culture in various ways, often
<br>
mutating as it went. ...</blockquote><br>
Yes; the term has strangely expanded very, very
quickly to incorporate all manners of vaguely mash-uppy audio tricks and
then on into internet apps and, nowly, anything that loosely combines two
distinct uniquities...<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">It's an interesting project and
experiment. I would love it if I <br>
walked into a club and witnessed people dancing to it, but I fear
<br>
that would have to be in an alternate universe.</blockquote><br>
I'm not surprised that San Francisco applies as your
alternate universe: Thanks to A+D, the twice-monthly mash-up
<a href="http://bootiesf.com/">Bootie night</a> is one of DNA Lounge's
biggest draws; they had to split in two after their monthly night started
drawing in over 1,500 people. And they've done so well that they've
expanded this to Bootie LA, Bootie NYC, Paris, and a couple more
somewheres in Europe.<br><br>
Now, mind you, I've seen their night firsthand many
times and I suspect that most Rumorites wouldn't enjoy the thing.
The night is like most club nights -- loaded with overly-cologned males
preying on overly-blushed females, and the music and entertainment feels
largely secondary. I can't help but think that the club kids are
there because they simply feel like they're getting a good bargain -- two
songs for the length of one. If there's any appreciation of the
artistry, I feel like the club-goers appreciate more of the
"artistry" of the original pop sources than of the mashup
artist combining them.<br><br>
That said, I'm generally for what they're doing, even
if I don't have the compunction to go to it often. A+D (the Bootie
promoters/hosts) are generous people, directed, motivated, and respect
the roots of where all this comes from. But for the most part,
almost all of the music played is simple A+B stuff. In the end I'm
less interested in the club night itself, and more interested in what its
byproduct and spawn will be. <br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">... Is a mashup just any
multi- sourced sample-based composition with a consistent (and
danceable?) <br>
tempo (or that includes only gradual tempo shifts)? I'd never
<br>
thought of the category as being so broad. Maybe we need a new
term <br>
for this new thing you're doing. maybe "mashon?"
...</blockquote><br>
Dang it, I wish ECC's "Plagiarhythm" had
caught on for the term... at least Macmillan put it in their
dictionary:
<a href="http://www.macmillandictionary.com/New-Words/030815-plagiarhythm.htm" eudora="autourl">
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/New-Words/030815-plagiarhythm.htm<br>
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</a>At 11:36 AM 5/5/2008, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">well, yes and no. three of
my favorite artists that came up from the "bootleg" scene were
osymyso, cassetteboy, and the glitch remix work of dsico (later poj masta
and others). </blockquote><br>
I gotta say, I've been getting into more Glitch
stuff of late... especially things like
<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=194525">
edIT</a> and
<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=94607959">
Glitch Mob</a>, and the <a href="http://207.200.96.227:8020/">Psyphy
stream</a>...<br><br>
- TradeMark G.<br><br>
P.S.: Performing in Toronto May 31st (new performance about the
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record">Voyager
</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record">Golden
Record</a>) and June 1st (talk about running Burning Man's BMIR 94.5 FM)
for <a href="http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless/">Deep Wireless</a>...
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